When it comes to Hollywood interviews, they’re “just so fucking straightforward and boring and everybody asks the same questions and it just gets redundant,” explains Nico Tortorella. 

But our interview is different, he says.

“This is a straight-up Love Bomb episode,” acknowledges the 28-year-old actor, likening the conversational tone of our exchange to his love- and sexuality-centric podcast, now in its second season. 

Though he touches on Menendez: Blood Brothers, his Lifetime movie about the infamous, parricidal siblings, and the upcoming season of TV Land’s Younger, Tortorella greatly expounds on his ever-evolving sexual identity, which has been an ongoing dialogue –internally and externally – since the actor revealed his label-less fluidity a year ago. 

Now identifying as a “proud” bisexual, the Chicago-born dreamboat candidly discusses his desire for a polyamorous relationship, struggling with his sexuality as a kid before finding his queer “safe haven” within the theater and his current mission to normalize the abnormal. 

Your sexual identity has really evolved over the last year; in 2016, you revealed you were label-less and "emotionally fluid." Then, you said you identify as bisexual.

I really like the term bisexual, and I fall somewhere under the umbrella that is bisexuality. I use the word bisexual because people have fought for so long for this word and the fact that it even exists in part of the LGBTI-etcetera is just a beautiful thing, and I’m not gonna be the person to take, like, fluidity or emotional fluidity or pansexual. I’m comfortable somewhere under the bisexual label, and I’m proud of it. 

After you revealed that you’re open to dating men, did you hear from more gay male admirers?

I think it was actually more when I came into touch with my own sexuality – not in terms of who I prefer, but just me as a sexual being. I just became more aware of different energies. 

When did you embrace your bisexuality? 

Honestly, I think with the work that I’m doing on my podcast – really exploring sexuality as a human condition has educated me on many different people’s lives and the importance of labels and the unimportance of labels, for that matter. I’m in a really interesting place where I can talk about these things, but I’m really doing the work outside of myself on it. 

When were you first aware that you had a gay following? 

That’s an interesting question. I grew up in Chicago on stage, and I was constantly surrounded by a bunch of queer people. I really got along with them as a little kid and they really liked me too, so I don’t think there was one moment in my career, like, “Oh, now I see I can get along with these people.” I feel like it was always there. It was always in me; it was always part of me. 

Recently, on your Instagram, you posted a pic of you sporting a shirt that says, “The Future Is Non-Binary.” What’s the story behind that shirt? 

I bought it when I was shooting the Menendez movie up in Vancouver at this little thrift store. And yes, the future is non-binary, but I am a hardcore believer that so is the past. It has been forever, but for whatever reason, during these past 300 years, we have – and it probably has to do with religion – created the binary. And listen, nothing else exists. But finally, over the last 50 years there’s been this amazing breakthrough and clearly now it is the zeitgeist. I’m just so fascinated by that whole story. 

Do you think people are too sexually rigid because society forces people to choose boxes to put themselves into? Is Hollywood influenced by this rigidity? 

Look, in Hollywood these are the stories that are being told that everybody’s watching. And if you look at mainstream television, basically since it’s been created, there’s only been one story that’s been told. For the most part, it’s about the heteronormative, white family and that has been what’s been pushed in our faces for so long.

Finally, in the last 20, 30 years, things have really been changing. So the answer is yes, absolutely. It’s what we know; it’s what we’ve seen. Religiously, it is what we’ve been taught. It is everything. So, I think, yes, for so long people have been so oppressed in who they are because it doesn’t match what we’re being shown. Now, in the age of the internet and social media, there’s just so much being thrown down our throats constantly – pun intended (laughs) – and it’s like, it exists. Finally, it exists. Finally, people’s stories can be told. And my purpose in life is to extend these stories. I’m in love with people and I’m in love with their stories. 

How do your views on sexuality influence the roles you choose as an actor? Are you looking for roles that challenge people’s views on sexuality? 

Yeah, for sure. It’s a natural thing that happens once I put myself into the role, and those types of projects seem to be floating in my direction, which I’m all for. But I think as an actor it is my job to transform, and as obsessed as I am with the community and our stories and everything, I’m obsessed with people in all facets of life. It’s my job to become them. So, I really think that there’s always gonna be a whole slew of different characters I play. 

Jacob Wells, your character on FOX’s serial-killer thriller The Following, enjoyed the company of both men and women. What was your read on his sexuality? 

It’s funny – at that point in my life I had a boyfriend in L.A. and a girlfriend in N.Y. and it was pretty intensely life imitating art. Granted, we weren’t killing people (laughs), but I was living that and wasn’t comfortable with myself to the fullest extent probably because that was before I got sober. I was somewhat of a mess. But I was really navigating what that meant to have two lives, almost. 

How have your Love Bomb guests enlightened you and your approach to your sexuality? 

It really is an extension of who I am. My sexuality is a part of my story – it’s not all of my story – and to just normalize things that are deemed abnormal is really important. That’s my driving force at this point, so it affects everything that I do because it is me. 

What topics do you seek to normalize during this second season? 

In the second season, I have everyone from Courtney Love to Todrick Hall to Johnny Weir. Some really, really heavy episodes. And it’s everything from ageism to intersectionality. The most amazing thing about this show is that every single person who comes on has a completely different story, and nine times out of 10 the story that is told is different than the one that I thought I was going to hear. That’s where the real magic is. So, the spectrum is wide. It’s a universe, really. 

What was it like sitting down with Courtney Love for The Love Bomb? 

I love her so much, and I’m just gonna open with that. The second we locked eyes and had, like, an exchange, it was magical. We’re kindred souls, and we spent a lot of time in Vancouver (shooting Menendez together). We went to a native-led sweat lodge and were just in interesting parts of our lives at the time and really opened up to each other. So, when it was time to sit down with a microphone – I mean, I felt like we were having the Love Bomb conversation for months before we even had the real conversation in the studio. It was amazing. We had gotten so close by that point that there wasn’t a wall, and she has such an incredible story. I mean, she’s an icon, she’s royalty. People are really gonna see a softer, human side to her that I think is just so lovely. 

Did she go thrift shopping with you?

We went shopping together a couple of times. She’s kind of like a gay man just in general, and I think she stands by that. I love that about her. 

Let’s talk Younger. Based on last season, Liza and your character, Josh, seem to be broken up. During season four, will we see Josh rebound with a boyfriend, perhaps? 

Yeah, I was just gonna say: The big secret of season four is Josh and Charles are gonna get together. (Laughs) 

Who wouldn’t love that?

I mean, I would, let’s be honest. But no, there’s definitely not gonna be a boyfriend for Josh anytime soon – not that I know of, anyway! But I think after Liza he’s definitely exploring other options, and we really get to see a part of Josh’s life that’s lived outside of everybody else’s story in this fourth season, which is nice. And since it is a Darren Star show, Liza and Josh won’t be that far apart from each other for that long. 

There’s been talk about you developing the The Love Bomb into a sketch-based TV series. What’s the status on that? 

The idea has evolved into something. I left a development meeting this morning, which I can’t talk too much about. But it is definitely happening. It is moving at a really sensible pace, and it’s the one thing that I’m most excited about right now. Honestly, there’s great acting jobs in the future and different movies and TV shows even, but this is the soul. 

What about it excites you? 

It’s just an extension of the podcast, I think. Everything I learned on the podcast I wanna take to the next level. The way I see it in my head is, it’s some sort of segmented show where I’m talking to different people all over the world and learning and really diving into different cultures and people and sexuality. It’s a sexploration of love. 

I hope that it’s been picked up by a cable network so you can push buttons and boundaries. 

I’m gonna get naked at some point, I promise. (Laughs) 

You really are challenging people’s feelings on sex and nakedness, aren’t you?

And love too! People are so fucking uptight about love. Love is supposed to be one specific way. You’re supposed to get married and have kids and that’s it – oh, and you’re probably supposed to marry the opposite sex. That just isn’t the case for so many fucking people. 

Like all my gay friends who are in open relationships. 

Even on that note: Why is it socially acceptable for two gay people to be in an open relationship, but if you hear about a straight couple in an open relationship people are like, “What? How does that work?” It doesn’t make sense to people. 

Also, being somebody that dates both, how do I maneuver that conversation? Like, “Look, I want a boyfriend and a girlfriend at the same time – are you cool with that?” That’s even more confusing. But I’ve done it, and at the end of the day that’s who I am. I think I’m coming more and more into my own acceptance with polyamory and how I think that I can just be the best partner, if that is an option. 

Have you always been as comfortable in your skin as you seem to be now? 

I just wanna make it clear that it was not always easy for me. For sure, as a kid. I had a really bad stutter from 8 to 11. I wasn’t doing any theater, and sexuality in my household was one thing and one thing only. Anything heard or talked about or seen outside of it was gross in one way or another. I mean, big Italian family in Chicago. It didn’t exist anywhere in my family. I didn’t have any gay relatives. It just wasn’t anywhere. 

Did you grow up Catholic? 

Yes, yes. And the theater is a safe haven for queer people everywhere; it just is. That’s where they go to let the flags fly to transform, to create, to fall in love, and it was the best training that I had for acting, for sure, and just for human experience. And once I started seeing (gay people), I started getting more comfortable talking about it with my family. But the struggle was real. When I got sober, really, is when I decided that I wasn’t going to not be unapologetically myself, and I really just stepped into it. 

Has there ever been a better prank call than the one in Serial Mom? 

The wicked bit features Kathleen Turner as Beverly Sutphin harassing her parking-spot-stealing neighbor, Dottie Hinkle (Mink Stole): “Is this the Cocksucker residence? Isn’t this 4215 Pussy Way?” 

In 1994, if you came looking for a raunchy, hard-R John Waters romp that challenged the mainstream paradigm while concurrently being mainstream (and while also taking the piss out of those who wear white after Labor Day), you came to the right place. Starring Turner, as well as Waters’ usual suspects (Stole and Ricki Lake), Serial Mom was the subversive auteur’s biggest budgeted, most Hollywood-oriented film. Even at his most mainstream, Waters left his deliciously screwy smirk all over the film’s obscene plot, which centered on a seemingly everyday mom with a filthy mouth and a fondness for killing the morally inept. Get in the way of her birdwatching? Scissor attack! Cheating on her daughter? Fireplace poker through the back! 

But the legendary mischief of that prank-call scene wasn’t merely Waters’ bawdy imagination at work – it was shaped by actual calls he’d made years before, says the director during a conversation timed to the release of Shout! Factory’s new Serial Mom: Collector’s Edition, the film’s Blu-ray debut. 

As shit-stirrers of the early ’70s, Waters and Mary Vivian Pearce, his friend and a star in many of his wild capers, including 1972’s Pink Flamingos and Serial Mom, grew up babysitting together. “We would call and torture people!” Waters says, in stitches. “We’d make prank calls, then the operator would call and cut the phone off. We used to call movie theaters all the time and say, ‘What’s playing?’ And they’d say, What’s the Matter with Helen? And we’d say, ‘I don’t know – she sick?!’ And for You Never Promised Me a Rose Garden, we’d say, ‘Yes, you did! You said I could have one last week!’ We would just torture people! So that’s where that came from. A little bit of truth.”

Fortunately, not all of Serial Mom was baked in truth – for instance, the killings, though some especially gullible watchers still believe Beverly Sutphin and her absurd murders actually happened (“They still say to me, ‘Where is she today?’”). Waters did, however, study the subject of homicide in gory, real-life depth, sitting in on famous trials and obsessing over true-crime stories that would help build the basis for the black comedy and its murderous-mom debauchery. Elements of his own upbringing had an influence here, as well. Take that brilliantly twisted Serial Mom sequence during which an elderly lady bops along to Annie and then gets bludgeoned to death by Beverly’s weapon of choice: a leg of lamb. 

“That my mom always made a really good leg of lamb,” he says, was his direct muse, but subconsciously he was also channeling Roald Dahl’s short story Lamb to the Slaughter, adapted in 1953 for Alfred Hitchcock Presents. In the episode, a housewife kills her husband with a frozen lamb leg. 

“I watched that show all the time, and I remember that show later when people tell me,” he says, “but I didn’t consciously remember that when I was writing it. I wrote it because my mom always made a great leg of lamb. It had the right kind of bone.” 

So right, in fact, that, “I still have the rubber prop leg of lamb that she killed with sitting on my desk in Baltimore.”

When the filmmaker leads live commentaries of the film around the country, he says new generations of Waters enthusiasts are just as tickled by the lamb and prank-call scenes as they were upon the film’s initial premiere, nearly two decades ago. “I’m really proud that all my movies still seem to play fine with audiences, even young audiences that weren’t even born when I made these movies!” he says. “That’s the ultimate test to me. People still laugh and they don’t feel like it’s old hat or ‘I’ve seen this before,’ so I’m always encouraged when I have a young audience. That’s the only thing you can’t buy, the one thing you can’t fake.” 

Though it was distributed in wide release, Serial Mom grossed a disappointing $7.82 million domestically, “but still, I was used to that,” says the director about its box-office performance. Its earnings, though modest, don’t seem to reflect the fanbase the film has amassed in the years following its lackluster big-screen rollout, as fans have pressed Waters to deliver more mommy murders. Though he’s written a book sequel to his Divine-starring Pink Flamingos, in addition to three developed but untouched sequels to Hairspray, it would be “kind of ballsy to be talking about a sequel to a movie that didn’t do well. I like that idea, but it’s hard to get meetings,” Waters explains.  

He has the pitch in his back pocket: It’s a TV show, and Beverly would kill for politically correct purposes on a monthly basis. Imagine Beverly alive and kickin’ and killin’ in Trump’s America. “There are so many reasons that she would have to kill,” he says, based on the current sociopolitical climate. 

“I still talk about it in interviews. Who knows – maybe this will make it happen. You never know. Did I ever think Multiple Maniacs would come out and get the best reviews? No! Did I ever think I would give a commencement speech that’s now a book that just came out called Make Trouble? No!

“Things you think are gonna work, don’t. Things you don’t ever think are gonna be big, are. You just never know. You keep telling stories and some strike a nerve and some don’t, and some don’t until way later.” 

If you were a curious-about-everything gay boy coming into his own in the ’90s, odds are Serial Mom hit the pre-pubescent spot. I tell Waters the film was my introduction to his filmography. “I’m glad that you saw Serial Mom first and it sucked you in!” he says, laughing mischievously. 

Though Waters’ early career followers were almost exclusively the queerest of queers – you’d have to be broad-minded to watch Divine partake in buttplay with a rosary, a scene from Multiple Maniacs – films such as Hairspray and Crybaby, and then Serial Mom, courted a new wave of shameless rebels. Waters’ mom thought Serial Mom was his best movie, and Waters agrees. Even Boy George got such a kick out of the comedy that he recited “cocksucker residence” on his own voicemail, which “really did make me laugh,” says Waters, upon discovering the message after calling the pop icon.
“All movies, to be a success, have to appeal to a wider audience than just a gay audience,” Waters says. “I’m not a separatist. I believe everybody should hang around together. My audiences – I always want the people who have a good sense of humor. I don’t care what they do with their vaginas or their noses or their assholes or their mouths. I don’t care as long as they can do one thing with their mouth – laugh!” 

More than 5,500 walkers, family, friends, and pets poured into Town Square Las Vegas in support of Aid for AIDS of Nevada’s (AFAN) 27th annual AIDS Walk Las Vegas, raising more than $300,000 to benefit those living with or affected by HIV/AIDS.

Longtime AFAN supporters Penn & Teller served as grand marshals for their 16th consecutive year, encouraging individual walkers to fundraise a minimum amount of $250, matched dollar for dollar by the duo with their Penn & Teller Challenge.

Assemblyman Nelson Araujo and U.S. Representative Ruben Kihuen, along with other Nevada government officials, honored AFAN with proclamations for their unyielding commitment to making Nevada AIDS-free.

“We are incredibly thankful year after year for the strong show of support and dedication the community has for AIDS Walk Las Vegas,” said AFAN Executive Director Antioco Carillo. “As our largest fundraiser of the year, this event helps fund vital services for individuals with HIV/AIDS. Everyone here today deserves a round of applause for their commitment to making Nevada AIDS-free. “

The community continues to show strong support of AIDS Walk Las Vegas through team fundraising and sponsorships.

“We’re serious bitches too,” says Amy Schumer, nearly in tears. The comic firecracker is seated next to national gay-loved treasure Goldie Hawn, and the screen icon has just made a touching revelation: She used to comfort men dying of AIDS. 

Perhaps that isn’t the kind of heartwarming reveal you’d expect during a sit-down for their action-comedy, Snatched, but as this onscreen mom-daughter duo joke about a potential gay-themed sequel (the ladies already have several queer-centric working titles; for Schumer, the joke writes itself), it’s clear nothing is off topic. They’re just happy to be here speaking to gay press, which has Schumer “very elated.” 

“This will be our favorite interview of the day,” the 35-year-old raves from a hotel bungalow in Santa Monica. Beaming, Hawn shares her enthusiasm: “It will be!” 

Snatched is Hawn’s first movie since 2002’s The Banger Sisters. But donning a signature frilly, shoulder-less, royal blue dress, it seems like just yesterday the 71-year-old’s frothy charm enraptured gay audiences on Laugh-In in the late ’60s, and later, in 1996’s First Wives Club and, of course, Death Becomes Her, in 1992.  

“It’s fun doing press with her,” says Schumer, as Hawn, en route, recharges at the hotel’s nearby buffet line before breezing in. “It’s also relaxing, because she’s like a mom – you’ll ask her something, and you’ll be looking for a sound bite and then we’re out of time and I’m like, ‘OK, cool. Good job.’” 

Before being snatched up for their next interview, Hawn and Schumer got real about their respective gay followings, how Hawn thinks Schumer still has time to pursue a lesbian relationship and their commitment to “fight to the death” for LGBT people. 

Why has it been important to you both to advocate for the LGBT community, especially now, in this political climate? 

Schumer: I can’t remember a time I didn’t. When I was in high school, people weren’t really out yet. I think it’s more now. It was a different time even then, but it was never a question. It was never a choice. It was, “Yeah, of course.”

Hawn: Being an ally for LGBT people and an ally for all people, transgender or whatever – to me, that’s a human story. I feel there are injustices in the world that I’ll stand up for, and I think that it’s important to realize that the world is filled with these kinds of issues. We’re dealing with intolerance and what’s going on with deportation and what’s happening with Mexicans and what’s happening with people who are Muslim. There are so many things, and if you can’t stand up for it, then you’re not standing up for humankind. Because that’s who we are. We all have skin and blood, and we’re all made of the same things. I have a note that I will probably needlepoint one day: “Love knows no gender.” And it doesn’t. Love is something in the heart and in the mind, so why would you chastise anyone for that? And this is something that I feel very strongly about. 

Schumer: Also, we’re both people who will stand up to the death for our gay friends and gay people and what’s going on in Chechnya and the fear of what will happen in the coming years. We’ll be there to fight alongside our gay friends. 

Hawn: You know what I used to do? This is interesting. When we went through the AIDS period, it was a very scary time, and I would go visit guys and I’d get in bed with them just to be there with them. 

Schumer: Come on, think about that. 

Hawn: Oh, I just remember.

Schumer: Aw, Goldie. And great – now we’re all crying.

Amy, on behalf of gays everywhere, thank you for being instrumental in bringing Goldie back to the big screen. 

Hawn: Awwww! 

Schumer: You’re welcome! 

Hawn: Oh my god, so sweet. 

You were missed, Goldie. 

Schumer: Dude, yeah. I completely agree, and I feel the same way. I just stayed on her, and we did it together.

Hawn: You were the one, I gotta tell you. It really was Amy. 

When in your career did you two first know you had a big gay following?

Hawn: Gosh, honey, this is a long time ago. I think when I first came on – it started then. The early days. There wasn’t a moment in my career, never a moment. I was a dancer, and I grew up and that’s who I was. There was no issue. I mean, I had a tremendous amount of gay friends, so my whole life was basically like that while dancing. So, I never noticed who was gay or who was straight. For me, it was like that. 

Now, later on, you started seeing more, maybe excitement, around it. But I’ll tell you, I don’t pay much attention. You can’t pay too much attention to those things and live a full life. It can’t be just about that. So, I don’t pay a lot of attention to things. I have a little bit of blinders on. 

Schumer: I’ve been on the road for 15 years. What I would do after shows is go dance at gay bars, and I started noticing, because even the worst towns have a fun gay bar, people being like, “We were at the show.” I remember it was a realization for me going on the road. And I’ve had a bunch of gay couples say, “I wanna propose at your show,” and I get really psyched! Ha! You’re like, “Yes!” Not because, “Oh, good, that’s a market”; it’s like, that’s who you want to love you. I feel really grateful and lucky, and the love is mutual.

Hawn: A really good friend of mine, who is gay, married her girlfriend and they wanted to get married in my house. All our friends were there, and it was the most beautiful thing. It was just so emotional, and (my son) Oliver, who is 40 now – at that time he was about 20-something – basically went, “Mom, I want a gay marriage!” Ha! I was like, “I know! It’s so beautiful.” 

Schumer: I’m always walking around in every town I’m in and I’ll find a park, and there are always people having their engagement pictures. I’m like, “Can I be in this photo?” I want in on the fun! 

As someone who used to dance in gay bars, were your dance moves in Snatched gay-inspired? And how about Goldie’s? 

Schumer: Oh, definitely. Also, just to watch Goldie dance is one of the great joys of my life. Honestly, to see that live.

Hawn: Ha! 

Goldie, with your dance scenes in this movie, were you having flashbacks to your iconic dancing in First Wives Club at that lesbian bar?

Hawn: Oh, right! I danced in a lot of movies! It’s weird but it happened and it’s good. 

Schumer: To have you not dance in a movie is a crime.

Both of you have experience in a lesbian bar. Goldie in First Wives Club, and Amy, you were a bartender at one before your comedy career took off. Is this maybe a potential jumping-off point for a second movie starring both of you? 

Schumer: There’s our sequel: The Real Snatched. 

Hawn: Ha! Snatched Unhinged! Snatched Uncensored!

Schumer: And Uncut!  

How do you think this film may resonate with gay people and the relationships they do or don’t have with their parents? 

Schumer: That’s a good question.

Hawn: Very good question.

Schumer: I definitely haven’t thought about how different sort of lifestyles could experience it because it does feel pretty universal, but I get it. I think it really will bring together people who have had a struggle with a parent – that idea of, we’re both doing the best we can. 

As kids, you’re just so, “Oh, my mom just loves me.” We all take our parents for granted, and the goal is to be able to accept that they just love the shit out of me and did the best they could. And maybe it wasn’t enough, but (it’s important) to find peace for yourself in that and to get rid of some of the anger. I hope this movie brings kids and parents together – I think it will. 

Hawn: The other thing you’re dealing with is a very strong rejection and it is arguably very, very important to find forgiveness. This movie may or may not touch a little on that, but we’re talking about a relationship between a mother and a daughter. It's kind of like a fraught relationship, and we do get into it. I’d like the idea that perhaps whether you’re gay or not that you’re able to go in and say, “Maybe I should call my dad, maybe I’m gonna call my mom.” 

One of the realities is that if you don’t make peace, they’re gonna die one day, and it’s really important to know that, because moms and dads don’t last forever. If you’ve got unfinished business, we need to face that, and that’s not easy. And a lot of parents are stoic and won’t give, and if they don’t give it’s a very sad story, because you know why? Every child wants to love their mother and their father. Love is the most important thing, and when they feel rejected and unloved that hole can never be filled by anyone else. 

Amy, in the movie, you tell your brother that he’s “so gay for mom.” 

Schumer: I wondered what the experience would be of that line.

Who are you gay for in your lives? 

Schumer: I’m gay for so many people that I think I may be just gay.

Hawn: Ha! 

Schumer: I love my girlfriends so much that I’ve kissed girls – but I’ve never had, like, a lesbian experience. Not yet. But I’m sure. The life is young.

Hawn: I was gonna say: There’s a lot of time!

Schumer: There’s time left. But you know how you just think your friends are so beautiful, and (with) my really good girlfriends, over the years I’ve had confusing feelings because I just love them so much. I just think they’re so beautiful, so I’m gay for my friends.

Hawn: My best girlfriend is gay… and my other girlfriend probably could’ve been! She wore man shoes all the time, and I was always the one in little twinkle shoes. She’d go out with me and I’d say, “Now are you gonna wear your suit and your man shoes because we’re quite a couple!” Ha! But my best girlfriend is gay, and this is the girl I laugh with like crazy. And my nephew!

Naturally, Goldie, everyone around you is gay, and with a résumé that includes First Wives Club and Death Becomes Her, I’d expect nothing less. Which of those films do you think earned you the most gay cred? 

Hawn: That’s really interesting. Probably First Wives Club. But Death Becomes Her was pretty gay. 

Did you know Death Becomes Her would eventually become a gay cult film? 

Hawn: Not at all! I just thought that it was gonna be a cult film forever because it’s all about staying alive and staying young forever, and (director) Bob Zemeckis was way ahead of his time. So, for me, it was just a general commentary on where we’re going, because everyone wants to stay young and no one wants to get old and what is the elixir and what can I drink?

When did you realize that it was adored by gay audiences? 

Hawn: I never thought of it! But I love that. 

Schumer: I hope this becomes a gay cult movie. 

Hawn: That would be awesome! 

I mean, basically anything that Goldie touches, right?  

Hawn: Well, my god, that’s quite a compliment. 

Schumer: We should all be so lucky!